Help! Cannot make FEEDBACK for TURNOUT position.

  • Hello.
    Recently i ve got Commander 5300
    But i cannot find out in program: " how to make feedback tor turnout's position? "
    As i already asked our railroad modellers - This is main drawback of Commander - why other people dont use this product.


    This is very important for conducting manual train in Semi-Automated mode(trains in automated mode + one train - in manual) or by other trottle through the same layout. Also it is important when manual switching is used somewhere.


    My QUESTIONS:


    1) Please tell me how i can make feedback for turnouts on Commander's diagramm?
    If this is still impossible, please make some very simply modification in new version of Commander's programm which will allow as option turnout feedback for switch position through S88 RuckMelder contacts (5217) (Turnout relay usually has 2 or more reed groups for lights and feedback aims) or allow another feedback modules (Roco, Zimo).



    2) How i can use RailCom to detect which train placed on the block?
    May be, are there new ViessMann S88 or SpeedBus RailCom RuckMelder exists?
    May be, are there transmitter between Zimo MX9 Can Bus and ViessMann speed Bus exists?
    Please help me. How can i do it?


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    Thanks,
    Vadim

  • Hallo Vadim,


    my english ist very bad,
    but I think if you load down the english Referenzhanduch
    on the Viessmannpage you will fond some answers.
    To viessmannpage you get on this page at the top of this side right.
    Than go to commander.


    I take Viessmann "Gleisbesetzmelder 5206" and behind "Roco Rückmelder 10787"
    that you can get to the LSB BUS. (I have 2 line N-trak)


    For railcom there are getting new definitions at that time.
    When this is clear between all partners it will be included
    into the commander. Please wait.


    Perhaps somwere with better english can answer too.

    Viel Grüße
    Dieter Riethenauer


    Commander 1.402, seit 12.07, Fleischm.profigleise N
    Viessmann u. Uhlenbrock Schalt/Magnetartikeldekoder
    Rocco RM 10787 am LSB hinter Viessmann BM 5206,
    Viessmann Booster ECO4, Win 10- 64bit

  • Hello driethenauer.


    I downloaded and analyzed english manual 1.1 , thanks!


    But i still cannot find out how to make feedback for turnout switching.


    For new version of Commander's programm it would be convenient to make option for turnout feedback adjustment as either Off (as in present time) or opening usual feedback menu (s88 et all) or using Roco Turnout decoder with feedback (LS100)


    In case of s88: block section contact can be used as usual block section feedback or as feedback for turnout position (using turnout's reed relay).


    It would be convenient to make this option in further version of Commander.
    It would add more flexibility.


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    Thanks,
    Vadim

  • Hallo Vadim,


    I hope I understand your question.


    you cannot get a feedback at that time.
    I think you must wait for railcom and i
    hope that will get next year. You now railcom gets new.
    I don't wit s88.
    Perhaps Mr Meier answers you, he nows the facts
    and can explain in english better.
    I think that will be after christmas.
    sorry i cant better help.


    Happy christmas for you.

    Viel Grüße
    Dieter Riethenauer


    Commander 1.402, seit 12.07, Fleischm.profigleise N
    Viessmann u. Uhlenbrock Schalt/Magnetartikeldekoder
    Rocco RM 10787 am LSB hinter Viessmann BM 5206,
    Viessmann Booster ECO4, Win 10- 64bit

  • Hello Mr Driethenauer


    Simply, if You are programmer of Commander,
    You may expand "turnouts" menu and add as free option ability to assighn (aussetzen) to each turnout - s88 contact for switching position feedback!
    (these contacts can be soldered to free reed contacts on turnout relay, which are swiching syncronously with motion of turnout slider. Many turnout models already has two such groups! For example Atlas Code 55 deluxe swich machine, or Peco tortoise machine )


    I mean this is quite simply for ALL USERS!
    And there are no any compicated and expensive RailCom or Roco LSB.


    I would be too happy to get this at new version of Commander.
    I mean that other users also would be too happy to having this simply feedback!



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    Vadim